The idea of fighting fire with fire, it's a concept rooted deep in Australia's aboriginal culture.
Indigenous fire management practices have found the spotlight amid the country's bush fire crisis with advocates calling for more recognition for their unique way of managing bush fire risk.
Firesticks Alliance Indigenous Corporation is one such organisation - it wants to see a loosening of regulations to allow more indigenous burns to take place.
And in the last in our interview series on issues making headlines this year - Kim Savage asked its chief executive Oliver Costello how the cultural practice differs from more commonly seen controlled burns.
