Preparations are now well underway for the next Eurovision Song Contest, which this year will be held in Britain, where it will be co-hosted by Ukraine.
The contest brings together not only nations in Europe, but parts of the Middle East and even Australia.
So how about New Zealand, too?
The EU ambassador to New Zealand, Nina Obermaier, thinks Aotearoa would look pretty good in there too, and she has some ideas on how to make that happen.
She spoke to Charlotte Cook.
