Superficial, unpalatable and unpopular.
That's how critics are labelling the goverment's Three waters revamp.
At least 18 of the 30 mayors opposed to the original plan are still very unhappy with the latest proposal - and told RNZ as much.
But some in that group of councils opposing three waters are not so strident about the changes.
On the flipside, the handful of mayors who were previously supportive now find themselves disappointed - and believe the new, more devolved approach will be costlier than the previous plan.
Local Government Minister Kieran McAnulty spoke to Ingrid Hipkiss.