It's been a dreadful summer for water related deaths with almost daily drownings over the busy new year period.
In one 48 hour period in Auckland last month - five people lost their lives in the water.
Otago University Masters student Rachel Irvine is researching how well or otherwise beach-goers can spot dangerous rip currents.
She has spent the summer surveying swimmers at Dunedin's St Clair and St Kilda beaches.
She joins Kathryn along with Adam Wooler from Surf Lifesaving New Zealand.