Technology correspondent Mark Pesce joins Kathryn to talk about what appears to be the biggest hack of the year so far - the mass exploitation of MOVEit Transfer software which has affected at least 60m people - probably more.
He'll look at the Clop ransomware and the gang behind it, the threats they've made and who's been affected so far.
There's been a cyber attack that has taken massive telescopes offline in Hawaii and Chile.
Thousands of 'white hat' hackers at DEFCON have tried to break the latest AI chatbots in an attempt to point out their vulnerabilities - we should all be a bit worried. And Zoom's CEO has been caught out in a moment of honesty.