Could you imagine living on an island with just one other person?
That's what Natalie McCondach does.
Four years ago she joined her partner on Urupukapuka in the beautiful Bay of Islands.
He's the sole caretaker and over the winter months they have no one but themselves and the abundant wildlife for company.
Summer is a different story as the population swells with boaties and holiday makers.
Natalie joins Anna to share her take on island life and a tale of two seasons.