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The Equal Employment Opportunities Commissioner, Saunoamaali'i Dr Karanina Sumeo, says it's been known for a long time that Pasifika women are at the bottom of the pay scale.
"We know that levels of poverty have actually worsen for some of our people, so I think there is an urgency now, and also because we have a government who talks about it in their well being budget that lifting the economic outcomes for Maori and Pacific is one of those priorities."
The Commissioner also shared her story of finding out that she was being paid $NZ40,000 less than a colleague who was doing exactly the same work.
"I've used my case because I've feel ok to talk about it, it's worked out for me but I'm aware that the silence is not because women don't want to talk about it, it's because they are scared that if they talk about it that they will be targeted not only with more discrimination but possibly the loss of a job."
Saunoamaali'i says discrimination is a major issue for Pasifika women.
"I think perhaps, you know some people think, that perhaps women at the lower level of pay, they are the only ones that are discriminated against because they are easy targets, actually discrimination happens to right through the hierarchy, from the top to the bottom."
Saunoamaali'i was also disappointed that a pay transparency mechanism was not included in the Equal Pay Amendment Bill.
She says "pay transparency is an essential element of pay equity and should be in the legislation".
She's now calling on the Government to consider stand-alone pay transparency legislation.
"An independent pay transparency agency needs to be established through separate legislation if the Equal Pay Amendment Bill and consequential amendments to the Employment Relations Act 2000 are not up to the task."
She also has welcomed the removal of the condition requiring women making a claim to undergo facilitation before seeking a determination in equal pay claims.
"I'm eager to see it work across workplaces and industries where Māori, Pacific, disabled and other women from minority groups are concentrated, as vulnerabilities may make them feel less able to challenge their bosses despite the legal provisions.
"The changes will help ensure women have the right to timely and effective justice and take New Zealand a step closer to economic equality."
Stella Teariki, is with the New Zealand Public Service Association.
She says the current gender pay principles were developed between the unions, Government and State Services Commission.
"There's only one part of those gender pay principles which makes reference to diversity and that's around freedom from discrimination. That doesn't even talk about ethnicity, it doesn't even refer to ethnicity, so for us it was about looking at those gender pay principles and thinking about from a Pacific lens, what does that look like for us? 22 seconds."
Ms Teariki says the talanoa she heard were really important and a big piece of work within the PSA's Pasifika network is now underway looking at a range of issues.
"We've got our National Fono at the end of June, we were are going to get the membership to endorse the work that our group has been doing around the gender pay principles with a Pacific lens that with the intent being that it turns into union work, it turns into the conversation we are having with employers about what we see Pacific workers to be important around changing the gender pay gap for Pacific workers."
But she says the gender pay gap conversation is not about this government.
"It has to be an ongoing conversation because there are systems in place within organisations that cause that gap, and if we take our eye off it, and we don't keep asking the questions about those systems, the gap will widen even more so."
Meanwhile, Nia Bartley, with Capital Coast DHB, says she feels it's really important for Pasifika women to support each other in the workforce.
"Irrespective of what position we reach in society, be it the prime minister, cabinet minister or perhaps the mail person,, we all have to look after each other, we all have to be respectful and kind and remember that no one is better than anybody else and also continuously uplift each, where we can."
The gathering of Pasifika Women in the Workforce in Porirua event had been organised by the Komiti Pasifika which is the NZ of Council of Trade Union's representative structure for Pacific Island workers.
Komiti Pasifika promote issues and activities that are particularly relevant to Pacific workers.
