The conversation around farming in New Zealand can get very, very heated - sometimes to the point where it seems a bit adversarial and oversimplified, with farmers on one side and environmental campaigners on the other.
Greg Hart's trying to turn that around.
He runs Mangarara farm in Hawke's Bay farmer and he's a big proponent of "regenerative farming".
Greg's giving a talk on it tonight at Brew in the city and joins us to explain a bit about what he'll talk about.