As Omicron cases surge through the community it's only a question of time before we reach case numbers in the tens of thousands.
There were 12,011 new community cases of Covid-19 reported in New Zealand today, with five further deaths.
Jesse speaks to Auckland University epidemiologist Professor Rod Jackson about the rapid rise in cases , what we can expect in coming weeks and, of course, his very tongue in cheek op ed in the NZ Herald.