Early childhood teachers have made worrying allegations of crowded, noisy centres where profit is put before children's welfare in a new survey.
Three-quarters of the 4,000 respondents to the Child Forum survey endorsed the quality of the places they worked.
But a quarter - that's 1,000 teachers - did not, with some saying their early learning service often ran with fewer than the legal minimum number of teachers.
Here's our education correspondent, John Gerritsen.
