Back to that news of a dire poll for the Labour Party, the latest Newshub-Reid research polls show the party has dropped to its lowest level since Andrew Little was the leader.
Labour's dropped a whopping 5 points to 26.8 percent since Newshub's last poll in early August, while National's popularity is up 4.3 percent to 40.9 percent.
Sue Moroney is a former Labour MP and chief party whip who used to chair the party's women's caucus and she speaks to Lisa Owen.
