New Zealand is embarking on its second experiment with the privatisation of prisons. Guests include economist Phil Barry, Maori Party MP Hone Harawira, Israeli academic Amir Paz-Puchs, Chief Human Rights Commissioner Rosslyn Noonan, the CEO of the Waipareira Trust John Tamihere, and Robert Perkinson, the author of Texas Tough: The Rise of America's Prison Empire.
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