The Government is reforming the debt-ridden polytech sector, giving new industry bodies the power to veto apprenticeships and vocational courses that are not up to scratch. It's creating workforce development councils to replace industry training organisations. The sector is not entirely happy about it, with Southland Polytech especially worried, but Otago Polytechnic Chief Executive Phil Ker sees opportunities and he joins Karyn Hay to explain what's on the horizon.