Labour's leader Chris Hipkins is yet to be sworn in as the new Prime Minister of Aotearoa New Zealand but he's already completed his first round of media duties.
He is no stranger to intense scrutiny after his almost daily news conferences as the Covid-19 response minister - but this was his first time speaking to mainstream broadcasters about his plans for the party.
Massey University's professor of politics Richard Shaw has been following the coverage and spoke to Charlotte Cook.
