Suicide: How do you know when someone is struggling?

He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. (What is the food of the leader? It is knowledge. It is communication.) The Māori Council is trying to teach people how to recognise when someone might be struggling, and give them ways to talk about it. Māori suicide rates are nearly double that of non-Māori, and the number of deaths has been increasing for the last four years. Matthew Tukaki is a Māori Council executive member and also chairs the organisation Suicide Prevention Australia. He talks to Guyon Espiner.