There's no business like show business, and the traffic light system is a lot more welcoming of entertainment.
Events can happen at red, orange, and green. While none of the country's in green, entertainment at orange is a lot more like normal than people nationwide have experienced for months, if vaccine passes are used.
There's a gig on tonight at Tim Ward's San Fran music venue in Wellington tonight, and a performance of Little Shop of Horrors at Christchurch's the Court Theatre where Barbara George is CEO.
The pair spoke to Susie Ferguson.