Helen Clark has been vocal about her concerns around New Zealand joining the security pact between Australia, the UK and the US also known as AUKUS.
Earlier in the evening Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters said New Zealand was "a long way" from making a decision about participating the non-nuclear part of the pact.
The former prime minister reacts to that statement as well as gives her thoughts on what she thinks it would mean for New Zealand's long standing independent foreign policy.