Technology correspondent Mark Pesce joins Kathryn to talk about whether the Cold War has been replaced with The Code War as the number of exploits, subversions and thefts seems to increase.
He'll talk about recent cases and ask - can we really trust anything online?
Mark will also look at a damning article which shows how Facebook ignored its own experts' concerns about the role of AI in order to increase engagement and how Amazon is trying to get its workers to be more productive by getting them to use online games.