Cyril Ramaphosa Photo: GUILLEM SARTORIO / AFP
Debora talks to Kathryn about whether Vladimir Putin's come to South Africa for BRICS?
The summit comprising Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa will be held in Johannesburg in August.
Also African leaders have been visiting Ukraine and Russia with South Africa's President Cyril Ramaphosa says the war must end. And Debora discusses the reaction and ramifications of severe anti-gay legislation in Uganda, including potential death penalty.
