Music commentator Dave Wilson joins Susie to talk about songs that serve to empower people and help them over come - not just through lyrics - but through many of their musical elements.
He'll play a track from K-pop group Blackpink, whose members (including a Kiwi citizen) were recently awarded MBE honours by King Charles.
He'll also play a song that was popular with teenage millennials and one of Aretha Franklin's most powerful ballads.
Dave Wilson is musician, composer, and ethnomusicologist, a senior lecturer at the New Zealand School of Music at Victoria University of Wellington