Imagine this: it's an apocalyptic future where climate change has brought the world to ruin.
You're given a wristwatch that can travel back in time, and you've got to go to key moments in history to try and revert the pathway to destruction.
That's the task in the virtual reality game Wanderer: The Fragments of Fate a game created by New Zealand studio Mighty Eyes - and which is getting a re-release soon on the Playstation VR and Quest platforms.
The game brought rave reviews when it had its original release in 2022 - including being nominated for VR game of the year at a major international awards.
The studio Mighty Eyes is just one of three ventures being led by creative tech entrepreneur Sam Ramlu.
She also runs Method, which works on digital experiences such as Hector's World, a cartoon created with Netsafe to educate kids about being online.
The company was also contracted to create Atea Nuku Time Walk Paihia - an immersive heritage walking tour of Paihia.
And there's a second gaming company under her umbrella - Mad Carnival - which is working on a more family-friendly genre of games.
She speaks with Kathryn.