There is a global movement of parents who are refusing to give their children smartphones.
It's driven by research showing the link between mental health issues in children, smartphone and social media use.
Here in Aotearoa, a group of researchers at Auckland University say New Zealand kids are among the heaviest users of screens in the world.
Daisy Greenwell from Smartphone Free Childhood and Samantha Marsh, from the University of Auckland's Faculty of Medical and Health Sciences talk to Mihi about where the concern is coming from.