Oxford University Professor of biodiversity Kathy Willis thinks we should have pot plants in every office.
In new book Good Nature: The New Science of How Nature Improves Our Health Kathy examines how and why nature can help make us healthier. For instance, why does touching wood make us feel calmer? Tthe woodier, the knotier, the better apparently.
Kathy talks to Susie about how nature can help reduce the costs of healthcare and how, by bringing nature into our towns and cities, we can create a better, happier and healthier environment for all.