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In a secular country like New Zealand, conversations about faith can be thin on the ground. But everybody believes in something, even if it's only in doubt. "I Know This Much is True" is a series of interviews with interesting Kiwis who've found something to believe in, and are making it work.

This week, former Prime Minister Helen Clark, who says she doesn't believe in God, she prefers to set goals instead.