Lynn Freeman is joined by Elspeth Sandys and Malcolm Mulholland to talk about the two New Zealanders they've chosen to write very personal essays about for a new book called Nine Lives.
Elspeth Sandys has chosen her uncle, Rewi Alley who lived and worked in China for 60 years, drawn there initially by the Chinese Revolution.
Malcolm Mulholland chose foremost Maori academic Dr Ranginui Walker, who's book Ka Whawhai Tonu Mato: Struggle Without End genuinely did change the course of his life.