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Andrew Lownie: The UK fallout from The Epstein Files

8 Feb 2026

British historian and author Andrew Lownie discusses the fallout from the latest release The Epstein Files. Audio

Sunday 8 February 2026

8.10 Andrew Lownie: The UK fallout from The Epstein Files 

British historian and author Andrew Lownie joins Jim to discuss the latest fallout from the release of more of The Epstein Files, and whether there is more to come. 

Andrew Lownie is the author of Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York, published last year.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer (R) talks with Britain's Ambassador to the United States Peter Mandelson during a welcome reception at the ambassador's residence on February 26, 2025 in Washington, DC. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer is on his first visit to Washington since US President Donald Trump returned to the White House. (Photo by Carl Court / POOL / AFP)

Photo: AFP / Pool / Carl Court

8:30 Sunday Morning Quiz with Jack Waley-Cohen 

Quiz master Jack Waley-Cohen is back with his Sunday Morning quiz.  

Jack is the mind behind the questions on BBC's quiz show Only Connect, known for being both hard — and at the same time totally obvious. Wake up your brain and have a go!    

Sunday Morning Quiz image

Photo: RNZ

8.35 Do meat eaters really live longer?  

Nicola Shubrook is a registered nutritional therapist, eating disorder nutritionist, and freelance journalist.

She joins Jim to discuss recent research showing meat eaters are more likely to live to 100, and the possible downside of a popular weight loss diet. 

A person chops raw meat on a wooden chopping board.

Photo: Unsplash / Usman Yousaf

9:00 Mediawatch 

Surveys say we don't yet trust AI in our news, but a new report shows our newsrooms are all using it - even if they’re not telling us. Another report says we’re more bothered by bad language on air than we have been in the past. But what kind of stuff really offends us?   

ILLUSTRATION - 22 October 2025, Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, Schwerin: Several AI applications can be seen on a smartphone screen, including ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Perplexity, Microsoft Copilot, Meta AI, Grok and DeepSeek. The apps are grouped in a folder labeled "AI". Artificial intelligence applications from various providers are increasingly shaping everyday digital life - from text and image generators to research and assistance functions.

Internet users are increasingly turning to chatbots to verify images in real time, but the tools often fail. Photo: Picture-Alliance via AFP

9.30 Latest news from the US with Karen Kasler 

Statehouse News Bureau chief Karen Kasler joins Jim to discuss the latest news coming out of the US. 

The U.S. House of Representatives has not yet passed appropriations bills to fund the government for the 2024 fiscal year, beginning October 1.  Enough Republican Representatives oppose the resolution that would fund the government temporarily to cause a shutdown. (Photo by Allison Bailey/NurPhoto) (Photo by Allison Bailey / NurPhoto / NurPhoto via AFP)

Photo: ALLISON BAILEY / AFP

10.05 Anna Willcox: On-the-snow reporter at the Winter Olympics 

Former Olympian and freestyle skier Anna Wilcox in Italy 2026

Photo: Anna Willcox / Instagram

The XXV Winter Olympic Games, commonly known as Milano Cortina 2026, kicked off in Italy on Friday.  

Jim’s joined by Anna Willcox, a former Olympian and Freestyle skier, who is part of the Sky Sport team reporting on the games. Anna’s based in Livigno, which is hosting the snowboarding and freestyle skiing competitions. 

Milano Cortina 2026 illuminations.

Milano Cortina 2026 illuminations. Photo: PIERO CRUCIATTI / AFP

10.35 Feeling apathetic? Science may be able to help. 

Are some people inherently dispassionate? Or is there a biological reason why someone might become apathetic? 

Masud Husain is a professor of neurology and cognitive neuroscience at the University of Oxford and author of Our Brains, Our Selves. He joins Jim to discuss the mechanism behind apathy and how science can help with motivation. 

Asian woman is sleeping as a hangover from a party or asleep from exhaustion in her bed in the bedroom until the morning.

Photo: 123RF

11.05 Frances Cook: The year ahead for our finances 

Independent financial journalist and host of the Making Cents podcast Frances Cook joins the show once again, this time to discuss the outlook for the year ahead for our finances, and how to make the most of your money. 

Business Desk investments editor and financial educator Frances Cook

Business Desk investments editor and financial educator Frances Cook Photo:

11.40 How McArthur Park became LA’s fentanyl ground zero 

MacArthur Park in Los Angles is a far cry from what used to be a safe green space for the community. It’s now overrun with hundreds of homeless and drug addicts, turning it into a dangerous crime hub. John Alle, who owns an entire block adjacent to the park, joins Jim Mora to give his first-hand account of the issue. 

MacArthur Park

Photo: John Alle

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For those of you curious about the Sunday Morning show theme tune, it was written by Jim’s daughter, Rebecca Mora when she was 18 and studying music composition at Auckland University. 

‘Hatstand’ is the title and it was mastered by RNZ engineer Andre Upston.