The Panel with Julia Hartley Moore and Chris Orr (Part 2)

How will history judge world leaders on their handling of the Covid 19 pandemic? Anna Fifield The Washington Post's bureau chief in Beijing compares leadership in New Zealand to that in other countries. Brendon O'Connor Associate Professor in American Politics, United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney on the reasons why Bernie Sanders has pulled out of the presidential race - leaving the way clear for Joe Biden to get the nod as the Democratic party's nominee. Clinical psychologist from Victoria University, Dr Dougal Sutherland is urging people to keep up the kindness during the second half of the lock down phase