The Panel with Michael Moynihan and Penny Ashton (Part 2)

Much of England is to enter the two toughest tiers when lockdown is lifted next week Dec 2. Wallace Chapman speaks to James Barnett who lives in Gravesend Kent, originally from Dunedin. Aotearoa's first transgender Miss New Zealand contestant took part in the pageant this month. Arielle Keil speaks to The Panel.