Dame Jenny Shipley

One of Aotearoa's former Prime Ministers wakes up every day to gaze across the bay towards Waitangi. Dame Jenny Shipley, who was Prime Minister from 1997 to 1999, now lives in Kororareka and like many former leaders she mostly observes a respectful silence over speaking out on the political policies of the day. But her opposition to the Treaty Principles Bill has gone public. Julian Wilcox sat down with her at Waitangi and asked her about the state of our nation in 2025.