First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 27 March

On today's First Up pod: we ask Labour's deputy leader Carmel Sepuloni if New Zealand politicians use group chats to talk policy; Prince Harry steps down from his own charity; we hear about fresh talks between the US government and the Taliban and Taranaki reporter Robin Martin tells us about local farmers who say it's the worst drought they've seen in about 40 years. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!