We talk to Dame Anne Salmond about a new book, Hei Taonga Ma Nga Uri Whakatipu: Treasures for the Rising Generation, which documents a project initiated by Sir Aprina Ngata.
Photo: Te Papa Press
Desperate to ensure that the Māori language and tikanga were put on record as soon as possible, Sir Aprina initiated four remarkable expeditions that saw a team from the Dominion Museum (Te Papa's predecessor), including Dame Anne's great-grandfather, James McDonald, travel across the North Island to record the tikanga Māori and art forms that Ngata feared might be disappearing.
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--wiTpSdXa--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469214/4M1AX0M_gallery_image_73807)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--Nq1XwXEJ--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469214/4M1AX0M_gallery_image_73807)
Apirana Ngata (left) and Te Rangihīroa weaving a tukutuku panel together, Waiomatatini, 1923. (James McDonald, Te Papa)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--jq4C8J1e--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469197/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73804)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--bdh3VHQO--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469197/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73804)
James McDonald and Johannes Andersen filming during the Hui Aroha in Gisborne, 1919. (Salmond Family Archive)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--_L2zR0Rg--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469189/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73803)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--mEDpVl2W--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469189/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73803)
From left: James McDonald, Hēnare Te Raumoa Balneavis, Elsdon Best and an unnamed man making a recording during the Hui Aroha in Gisborne, 1919. (James McDonald, Te Papa)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--lMls_3HJ--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469203/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73805)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--_x4cQnl2--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469203/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73805)
The haka ‘Ka mate’ is performed by volunteers in front of the Wī Pere Memorial during Hui Aroha commemorations in Gisborne, 2019. (Natalie Robertson, private collection)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--tsvBYqdx--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469183/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73802)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--HuATO0Lq--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469183/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73802)
James McDonald took a series of photographs at Hui Aroha, Gisborne, 1919, showing the preparation of food, here lifting the hāngi. (James McDonald, Te Papa)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--p4Hma2UF--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469208/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73806)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--wcF98QZa--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469208/4M1AX0O_gallery_image_73806)
Tangi of welcome to the Prince of Wales in Rotorua, 1920. (James McDonald, Te Papa)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--wUPFqDy1--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469246/4M1AX0E_gallery_image_73812)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--wxyZJfCJ--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469246/4M1AX0E_gallery_image_73812)
Women perform at the welcome ceremony for the Prince of Wales at Arawa Park, 1920. (James McDonald, Te Papa)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--mkIzrNbE--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469233/4M1AX0I_gallery_image_73810)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--p2Fa6Lz9--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469233/4M1AX0I_gallery_image_73810)
Hiruhārama Village, Whanganui River, 1921. (James McDonald, Te Papa)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--4cWj9aXk--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469227/4M1AX0I_gallery_image_73809)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--kha9wAmY--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469227/4M1AX0I_gallery_image_73809)
Te Rangihīroa setting a hīnaki in a channel, Waiapu River, 1923. (James McDonald, Te Papa)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--tps9zfyQ--/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576/v1643469253/4M1AX0E_gallery_image_73813)
![](https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--zwPhN1oB--/ar_1:1,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_276/v1643469253/4M1AX0E_gallery_image_73813)
From left: Apirana Pipi or Urupa, Wi Maraki, Hamuera Ngārimu, Frank Sweeney, Eruera Tuari and Wi Hunia at Mataahu, Gisborne, 1923. (James McDonald, Te Papa)