Media commentator Gavin Ellis

Kathryn Ryan talks to Gavin Ellis about how John Clarke's untimely death is a lost to not only television, but a host of cultural forums. Gavin also looks at the long form interview in RNZ's the 9th floor series. Gavin Ellis is a media commentator and former editor of the New Zealand Herald. He can be contacted on gavin.ellis@xtra.co.nz