Accompanied by his distinctively colourful wardrobe, former UK cabinet minister turned TV presenter Michael Portillo travelled almost 15,000 kilometres around 'The Lucky Country' by train - from the Ghan to the Indian Pacific - for his latest series, Great Australian Railway Journeys, which premieres on NZ television next month. He joins the show to discuss the series and share his views on how the Covid-19 outbreak is being handled in the UK.