First Up - The Podcast, Friday 4 November

On today's First Up pod - we're in Africa and America as well as Pakistan where former PM Imran Khan was shot; the director of the Women's Rugby World Cup tells us about its success as the Black Ferns prepare for their semi-final against France at Eden Park this Saturday and a leading scientist says if a dangerous new Covid variant emerges, a shortage of lab staff means we might not know about it until it's too late. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!