First Up - The Podcast, Tuesday 24 January

On today's First Up pod - why some of Japan's young people are opting for apartments which don't have a bath or shower; we ask National's deputy leader Nicola Willis if our new Prime Minister from the Hutt and his 'Westie' Deputy have scuppered their election plans and we discuss Jacinda Ardern's global significance with one of UK politics' heaviest hitters, former Downing Street spokesperson Alastair Campbell. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!