First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 6 April

On today's First Up pod - Former US President Donald Trump lays the blame on everyone but himself after pleading not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying his business records; we ask the Deputy Prime Minister Carmel Sepuloni how we can retain the thousands of nurses heading to Australia for better pay and we're in Northland where businesses say the Easter Weekend could be make or break. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!