First Up - The Podcast, Wednesday 8 May

On today's First Up pod: It's Stormy in New York - we have the latest from Donald Trump's hush money trial; Olympic bound surfer Billy Stairmand joins the programme, and we learn that the venue is the famous Paris surfing suburb of Tahiti and about half of New Zealand adults do not have a will. What's putting people off? Mahvash Ikram finds out. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!