First Up - The Podcast, Friday 17 May

On today's First Up pod: Pacific correspondent Kalafi Moala has the latest from the riots in New Caledonia; Trump and Biden agree on televised debates - Bevan Hurley updates us from the USA; Gabon's former leader Ali Bongo is on a hunger strike; we find out about the latest Covid variants this winter and Badjelly the Witch is in town! and it's no mean feat - getting Spike Milligan's much loved story to the stage. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!