3 Feb 2025

Treaty Talks | Episode 5: Dr. Luke Fitzmaurice-Brown

From Treaty Talks, 5:00 pm on 3 February 2025

Series Classification: G (General Audiences) | Find the series here.

In this episode of Treaty Talks, Kara speaks with manuhiri Dr. Luke Fitzmaurice-Brown (Te Aupōuri), a lawyer and treaty educator on the principles of Te Tiriti o Waitangi. We hear how they were established in the '70s and '80s to interpret the treaty.

We also discuss the broader implications of treaty breaches on Māori well-being through legislation. We look at the government’s approach, highlighting the importance of understanding the treaty’s te reo Māori text and the need for genuine partnerships—particularly in child protection through Oranga Tamariki.

Treaty Talks was filmed in September 2024 at Te Papa Tongarewa inside Te Tiriti o Waitangi: Ngā tohu kotahitanga exhibition, prior to the introduction of the Treaty Principles Bill and the nationwide hīkoi in November.

Photo: Te Māngai Pāho