First Up - The Podcast, Tuesday 19 July

On today's First Up pod - National's deputy leader Nicola Willis on how her party would bring down the cost of living and economist Shamubeel Eaqub crunches the numbers; there's a deadly heatwave in Europe - we talk with our melting correspondent in London and the Maori baker revitalising traditional rewana bread, with a recipe that goes back generations. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!